tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5840334769821430599.post6022609071141148310..comments2023-10-09T05:34:13.312-05:00Comments on Haz Mace, Will Raid: In Which Priests are not PaladinsAntigenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13230009904320744879noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5840334769821430599.post-69914705030262030242010-04-06T14:01:45.407-05:002010-04-06T14:01:45.407-05:00Ah, I forgot about protadins getting DivSac too! A...Ah, I forgot about protadins getting DivSac too! And I tank quite often and pop that CD quite often...<br /><br />Bad Antigen, bad.Antigenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13230009904320744879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5840334769821430599.post-37596041847402888032010-04-06T13:50:57.682-05:002010-04-06T13:50:57.682-05:00Drop the 1 point (or both) from PoJ? It really do...Drop the 1 point (or both) from PoJ? It really does gimp the spec hard to go for DG, though a DSac build is viable if you're running heroics all day. Of course you can get away with some pretty crappy builds in heroics and you don't want to be in any group where DSac is actually necessary.<br /><br />It hasn't happened yet, but I'm going to queue as dps in my Holy setup to see if anyone whines about me doing 2k.<br /><br />As for ICC, I love having an AM buddy or two. Our two paladin tanks are both rocking DG already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5840334769821430599.post-40857972781630899622010-04-06T10:50:10.549-05:002010-04-06T10:50:10.549-05:00Yes Ophelie, while I do agree with you that simply...Yes Ophelie, while I do agree with you that simply grabbing DS and DS alone is not a DPS loss, I was implying that in order to make it a useful raid cooldown, you'd have to take a hit in the DPS pants.<br /><br />In fact, not only would you have to take all 5 points out of Seals of the Pure, you'd have to take a point out of the Ret tree to get a full 2/2 Divine Guardian. <br /><br />When RaidSac was viable, we were still using Seal of Blood (making 5/5 Seals of the Pure useless), and Seal of Command was garbage, so naturally that point would've come from Seal of Command. Now, however, Seal of Cleave is way too sexy, and since they retooled Seal of Vengeance in 3.2 it's become our primary single-target DPS seal.<br /><br />And yes, I exaggerate quite often. I was just upset that, on a site that many many people go to for information on their class and WoW in general, they had someone give advice that doesn't jive with most of the ret community. <br /><br />TL;DR version- I'd suggest leaving DivSac to the holy paladins and grabbing Aura Mastery instead, as it has a bit more usefulness since you can't make DivSac raid viable while min/maxing your DPS as high as you can.Antigenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13230009904320744879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5840334769821430599.post-87368972518623800272010-04-06T09:13:26.388-05:002010-04-06T09:13:26.388-05:00Great assessment! I completely agree DS is pretty ...Great assessment! I completely agree DS is pretty untenable for Ret since you really can't get the Divine Guardian effect which makes DS actually good. I mourn this, considering how long it took me to convince my guild's Rets to get DS in the first place, and then they nerfed it.Rhidachhttp://rhida.chnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5840334769821430599.post-90740131786572508742010-04-06T05:58:06.546-05:002010-04-06T05:58:06.546-05:00There's no significant dps loss in going DS in...There's no significant dps loss in going DS instead of AM so saying he shouldn't go into ICC because he's specced into DS is kind of exaggerating. (Being a guildie of said columnist, I can testify that he does okay on on his pally in ICC but we jokingly tell him not to quit his day job as a healing priest.)<br /><br />I do agree with you that AM has more use in ICC than DS does (especially without the DG raid wall). I'll pass on the message!Opheliehttp://bossypally.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com